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Old April 19th, 2021, 19:06
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If perchance you initially scribed a line all the way down and then went back and added your tabs that could be your problem. A scribed line will act as a stress riser.

If that is not what happened, another course to consider is to anneal those sections you need to bend. It is fairly easy to anneal aluminum if you have a torch rig. Set up your torch to run rich such that black wisps are falling out the air and use that setting to lay down a coat of soot where you want the aluminum annealed. Once you have laid down your soot adjust your torch back to normal operation and burn the soot off. Once the soot has been burned off you have annealed the aluminum and can work with it as you like. If you need to harden it again afterwards I think that is going to require a shop with more specialized equipment than an individual is likely to have on hand.
I did both a heavy scribe and a torch anneal, stuff happens!
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Old April 19th, 2021, 21:32
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Try again on a scrap without the scribe.
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Old April 19th, 2021, 22:33
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Usually not an issue on thin stock, but did you consider grain direction? At this point it may be easier to just weld the tabs back on if you got a clean break vs starting over again.
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Old April 19th, 2021, 22:40
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No, it's part my fault. I sent it to work with my son and with the intensions of a "obtuse" bend, it got over-bent to a "acute" angle that I think broke it (there was actually one survivor). I'm currently working on a piece of stainless(1/16") that will be a lot faster to re-do.
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Old April 20th, 2021, 07:50
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Usually not an issue on thin stock, but did you consider grain direction?
I suspect you are referring to aluminum. How is grain direction determined?
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Usually not an issue on thin stock, but did you consider grain direction? At this point it may be easier to just weld the tabs back on if you got a clean break vs starting over again.
It would take longer to build a jig to hold the mounting feet in place at the angle I need than to just make new ones.
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I suspect you are referring to aluminum. How is grain direction determined?
If you're working with a new 4x8' sheet it might be marked with an arrow, depending on mfr. If working on a salvaged or unknown piece you can sometimes see the grain with naked eye or under magnifying glass. If not, then making a couple of sharp bends on small coupons should tell you.
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Old April 23rd, 2021, 09:15
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The new set hot from the plasma cutter. They look a little nasty now till I get them cleaned up, but no drilling this time so it went fast. Now to get them on the brake.
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Finally getting to the end of this project, I got all my pathways figured out and all the wire pulled. Got the top penetration ready to set the panel in place. I've got a lot of wiring to do!

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I've got a lot of wiring to do!
Eh, just solder all the ends together and tie the bundle in a knot.
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Eh, just solder all the ends together and tie the bundle in a knot.
If I tie the knot to tight the electrons can't get thru !!!
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If I tie the knot to tight the electrons can't get thru !!!
:doh" STUPID...and I was a physics minor!
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I had to make some changes to the PDU I built so I also added some identification to the breakers, I added a 10amp for the USB ports/power meter, also for on-the-road repairs ("electrical for dummys").

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Got the panel up on the roof (it's not bolted down yet). It's a 200W and 29" x 62".



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Nice work Phoenix.
If you haven’t invested in a battery monitor I can’t recommend one strongly enough. Not having one is like not having a fuel gauge. I’ve been using a Trimetric from Bogart engineering for years and years. Helps maintain your batteries for extending performance and life. Wiring one in is no more difficult than what you have already done with this project.
I like that 16’ scope too. I imagine that thing comes in handy quite often.
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